tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post3044178462503608320..comments2023-07-12T06:26:17.735-02:00Comments on Motherhood Deleted: What's In A Word? Language Manipulation for ProfitRobinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-87736003502461313512008-06-17T23:02:00.000-02:002008-06-17T23:02:00.000-02:00""Slander: a false, malicious statement (spoken or...""Slander: a false, malicious statement (spoken or published), especially one which is injurious to a person's reputation; the making of such a statement""<BR/><BR/>Well, Dear AMama... I truly believe in turn about is fair play. We had our turn, now you get yours. For decades us now Senior Mothers were 'slandered' and not just on a Blog on the internet. Many of us were 'slandered' by the young men who would be our newborns fathers, some of our own families would 'slander' us. We were 'slandered' in magazines and newspapers. We were 'slandered' in maternity homes, by adoption agencies and their 'workers'. We were 'slandered' in hospitals during our labor and deliveries, we were 'slandered' immediately after our babies were born. And we were 'slandered' in courts of law, without our presence required or being availed of legal representation. <BR/><BR/>SLANDER.... you don't even begin to know the meaning of and the deep tortous feelings of...with no way to fight back whilst young. <BR/><BR/>So pardon me..if I can't drum up a ton of compassion for you and others like you and what you imagine to be 'slander'. I can offer you the same advice that has been offered to us now Senior Mothers for decades by people in your 'group'... Suck it up and Move On!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-29615073494308242022008-06-17T13:50:00.000-02:002008-06-17T13:50:00.000-02:00Awwww, AM, were you really thinking that I would l...Awwww, AM, were you really thinking that I would let you get by with more than one comment on this board,, letting you use it to try to debate your ideas? So deluded....sad. And the term I have used is "self-entitled." Look it up and find another place to try to preach your adoption gospel because I will just continue to reject your comments. Be glad you got one in.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-28329474937790031552008-06-17T08:18:00.000-02:002008-06-17T08:18:00.000-02:00Knock yourself out, then, AM. Prove it. I had enou...Knock yourself out, then, AM. Prove it. I had enough lies told about me to "injure my reputation," by my children's adopters that, I can easily disprove. You show me a lie, here, and prove it. We have a lot of proof for what we're saying.<BR/><BR/>And it's victIms...not victOms. And, written, I believe, it is called libel and you have to have a biiiig battery of facts to substantiate charges of slander OR libel. <BR/><BR/>You really are feeling defensive, aren't you? Reel your bottom lip back in and take your self-entitled bad self back to where you can rock on.<BR/><BR/>OK, everyone. Here is my token negative comment for this post. Another adopter who doesn't want to face the pain of the mother or the future pain of the adoptee or their own issues.Taaa Daaaaa!Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-21522359308504710052008-06-16T22:42:00.000-02:002008-06-16T22:42:00.000-02:00People who adopt are victoms of your SLANDER. Sla...People who adopt are victoms of your SLANDER. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Slander: a false, malicious statement (spoken or published), especially one which is injurious to a person's reputation; the making of such a statementJodi Crubaughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12335597346376081729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-81286431431748061392008-06-16T20:37:00.000-02:002008-06-16T20:37:00.000-02:00adopters pressure their adoptees to surrender beca...adopters pressure their adoptees to surrender because the fertility of the daughters threatens them. they want to "sterilize" their daughters to make them more like themselves and forcing the daughters to surrender their babies does this in their eyes. the fertility they were denied is fully in display as something they could never have. they are INTENSELY JEALOUS plus it reminds them that the real mother of that child could get pregnant and they could not! this is the truth of it, above all else. fertility upsets adopters, which is why they don't want their ab/doptees to fragrantly display it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-25336963901282392902008-06-16T20:03:00.000-02:002008-06-16T20:03:00.000-02:00Maybe, my daughter was urged, by her adopters, to ...Maybe, my daughter was urged, by her adopters, to surrender my grandson to adoption, even though she was married to the father(she was 17). She refused to do so, thank Heavens, and my grandson is a big part of my life. I think that a lot of adopted women are given this kind of wrong-minded cousel by the people who adopted them and, often, they force the issue. <BR/><BR/>I, too, am very concerned about the long-term effects that this disruption of family at its most basic level will continue to cause. It has already created a flesh trade in infants that is corrupt and treats women like breeders and their babies like commodities.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-63042044463484167952008-06-16T19:24:00.000-02:002008-06-16T19:24:00.000-02:00I posted this question on some other blogs, I hope...I posted this question on some other blogs, I hope to get some feedback because it truly bothers me.<BR/><BR/>I've noticed a disturbing trend among families that are touched by adoption. There seem to be so many cases where an adoptee ends up surrending a baby -I just wonder why this occurs as often as it appears to (at least I see a lot of it on the blogs; would love to know what the "hard" stats show). <BR/><BR/>Is there some pyschic wound that is transferred from the first surrending mother onto her baby? Is it a perpetuation of victim-status?<BR/><BR/>This worries me because so many groups are pushing for an increase in infant adoptions and I wonder what will be the long-term negative consequences for society.maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067284504038707207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-14176230537324914612008-06-16T18:32:00.000-02:002008-06-16T18:32:00.000-02:00we had that same discussion in our trauma class. ...we had that same discussion in our trauma class. that there is NOTHING derogatory about being a victim because it merely means that a violence act was perpetrated against you. BUT others have given it a derogatory meaning: to mean weak, complaining, or falsely accusing others.<BR/><BR/>wherever there is violence there is resistance to that violence. victims are NEVER passive and "learned helplessness" is a MYTH created by people in positions of power (mainly men) who see only the male model of resistance (physical, coming to blows) as being valid. <BR/><BR/>And i know of no mother who has survived disembabyment who did not resist. we ALL resisted even if it amounted to us being numb and dissociating during the experience in order to protect our psychological selves from the trauma, or if we wanted to keep our children as this very emotion was resistance even if there was nothing we could do about it to prevent the act. <BR/><BR/>Facts: <BR/>- violence is unilateral<BR/>- wherever there is violence the victim resists.<BR/>- the perpetrator will try to suppress the victim's resistance<BR/>- the perpetrator will try to hide/deny responsibility<BR/><BR/>check out the writings of Linda Coates and Allan Wade for a thorough analysis of violence and resistance. it is high pertinent to us as natural mothers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com