tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post5438727306998417795..comments2023-07-12T06:26:17.735-02:00Comments on Motherhood Deleted: Just A ReminderRobinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-60632565057869825542010-04-07T12:23:32.777-02:002010-04-07T12:23:32.777-02:00K, It took longer for those changes to be seen in ...K, It took longer for those changes to be seen in the SC, Bible Belt backwater where I lived. But I watched and saw it happening. I also remember when the local health department made birth control pills available to unmarried women. That was also in the '70's.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-29448277732301392832010-04-07T11:36:53.709-02:002010-04-07T11:36:53.709-02:00kitta here:
I too saw these changes in stages, an...kitta here:<br /><br />I too saw these changes in stages, and some of the changes were already happening in the late 1960s.<br /><br />When my parents sent me away in 1967, there were already some public figures who were keeping out of wedlock babies. This would have been unheard of 10 years earlier.<br /><br />After I lost my son, I returned to university and there was a very pregnant girl in my dormitory. I also observed several single pregnant girls in my classes, and they said they were keeping their babies.<br /><br />At least the school did not kick them out, whatever they did.<br /><br />I also think that maybe some parts of the country were more liberal than others. We are talking about Colorado in the 1960s and it was more tolerant in those days...not so much today.<br /><br />Colorado was the first state to legalize abortion, in 1967. Today it is one of the states that repeatedly pushes for "un-born personhood laws."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299844734505336573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-67475819502208119682010-04-07T09:12:46.934-02:002010-04-07T09:12:46.934-02:00You said it, Robin! You said it all.You said it, Robin! You said it all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17088288948654864117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-62780544844023336572010-04-07T01:20:01.057-02:002010-04-07T01:20:01.057-02:00For me, the pain, the ignorance and the bull is so...For me, the pain, the ignorance and the bull is so very much the same - regardless of the era. The BSE Mothers, yes, aging, are important. They are the first to open their mouths and speak. <br /><br />I have enormous respect for the women of the era - religion, society and government, all about turning a normal teen act into something horrible.<br /><br />I fear for the younger crowd. Their ignorance and the ignorance of the masses over the last four generations is amazing.<br /><br />Robin, you would not be interested in co-writing a book "Adoption, A Historical Event" would you? Maybe then someone would actually listen.<br /><br />I so think that there is no way I can even understand the issues surround the BSE mothers - yet I think that I have to respect them. Their battle prevented much later on....Now to get someone to listen and learn. <br /><br />Far too many sheep and fools in our world.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815710859859029536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-70207212741465881862010-04-06T15:12:41.495-02:002010-04-06T15:12:41.495-02:00Thank you Robin...I for one as a BSE Mother, do ap...Thank you Robin...I for one as a BSE Mother, do appreciate you. <br /><br />I have lost much in my now almost 64 years of life. The 3 greatest losses in my life, in chronological order...my newborn baby girl when I had just turned 18 (45 years ago), my one and only "real" mother, and then most recently..the guy I had been with since the age of 13, married at 19 and lost him after living 43 years together. <br /><br />I found my silent voice 10 years ago and that is something today I have absolute control over and never intend to silence again. I know what I experienced and that experience was happening at the same time for millions of other young unwed mothers globally...America, Canada, Ireland, UK, New Zealand, Australia and any other westernized countries in existence at that time. It was and still is, a global tragedy...that far too many still want to make believe never happened, or want to *revise* that "history" or to dismiss easily out of hand. <br />Reunion was my catalyst to *speak*. Reunion brought to the forefront all that I did not know or had repressed for over 34 years at the time I reunited. I firstly sought "support" in my reunion...but even better than "support", I found/received my first education on all things adoption. Better still..I found me..and I don't intend to *lose* me again..no matter the cost..not til the last breath exits my body.<br /><br />Nobody else in the world is forced to live with me...but I am "forced" to live with myself...I better at least have a modicum of liking and respect for the person I have to live with each and every day...Me!!Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-5065914881990555342010-04-06T15:09:16.670-02:002010-04-06T15:09:16.670-02:00I understand the distinctions, Lori and thanks. I ...I understand the distinctions, Lori and thanks. I think the industry had managed to PR this society and young women into thinking that mothers are interchangable. That's why I think that the EMS/BSE is where I should concentrate. That doesn't mean I can't add a word of support where I see the need, but we are the ones that are aging out of the activism arena and we need to be heard and SOON. It would help if our younger sisters could say a word or two of support but most seem to think that asking for redress for the EMS is downplaying their pain.<br /><br />Brow-beaten doesn't even begin to cover it as far as the EMS. We were outcasts and seen as sinners/psychologically deviant delinquents. The young women who came as little as ten years later would never have allowed the kind of mistreatment we endured. And a lot of the young women of today don't listen to us until it is too late. Once that baby is surrendered, mom is SOL.<br /><br />Of course, when I was young, I thought that everyone older than me was so out of it, the couldn't possibly understand. It just bothers me that girls are still buying into the adoption hype.<br /><br />It wasn't too long ago that I heard from the man who was the minister of our church when I was pregnant with S & J. He had suggested to my mother that she authorize a hysterectomy for me and they had an arguement that ended with him leaving. He told me that he always remembered me whenever parents or young girls came to him for this reason. He said he got an education in understanding and compassion and would never be so quick to judge again. Hey...that's one.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-6522190462048262652010-04-06T14:43:15.145-02:002010-04-06T14:43:15.145-02:00Robin, I agree. The events are exactly, events. ...Robin, I agree. The events are exactly, events. The EMS/BSE events were exactly what they were. <br /><br />I see it in three era's though. The first was the EMS/BSE group - forced and brow beaten.<br /><br />Next were the Lost Mothers - we were not BSE, but were also not really part of the next full development of a group. We were those that occured prior to 1983 and after 1975. Yes, there were more of our mothers that were willing to help us - but then they were BSE ages and knew what it was really about. That did not change the facts - we still were conned, coerced and bullied into doing something that was horrible.<br /><br />The next were the OAE - Open Adoption Era - this is the current and since 1983 era. These young women are taught to believe the lies and that it will be "easier" to have an open adoption - I believe it is sometimes worse. But then I know a number of OAE mothers that simply can't handle the idea of look but don't touch. I get that - I would have flipped out if I had to watch someone else be called mommy.<br /><br />So, yes, these are real events and no insult is intended, at least from me.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815710859859029536noreply@blogger.com