tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post5814165113051092475..comments2023-07-12T06:26:17.735-02:00Comments on Motherhood Deleted: What Are Those Senior Moms Up To Now?Robinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-76239215120991095272008-09-01T02:22:00.000-02:002008-09-01T02:22:00.000-02:00There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Sen...There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Senior, or being referred to as one. Most of us Seniors are also some of the older members of the 'Baby Boomer' Bunch...a bunch of people who have been the movers and shakers in our society, in these last several decades. And Robin is correct...AARP is a huge org with lobbyist powers. Let's not be so quick to bury the 'Seniors'..us Senior Baby Boomers still pack a wallop on many fronts and are still heavily engaged in politics, no matter which way one votes. I believe us Senior Baby Boomers have much more energy and determination than did the generation before us at the ages we are today. It ain't over...not by a long shot!! Soon to be 62 years of age and quite proud of that fact.. I still have energy (though a nap is really refreshing, LOL!), I still have my determination, I remain interested in life outside of myself, I can still mentally focus and I still have a good chunk of Snap! And I believe a cause that one truly believes in, is worth whatever it takes to see it through, no matter ones age!<BR/><BR/>Senior ChrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-86654225606365623602008-08-31T17:25:00.000-02:002008-08-31T17:25:00.000-02:00Well said, Sandy. In any event, I think that "Seni...Well said, Sandy. In any event, I think that "Senior" also carries with it the idea of dignity, wisdom, experience and, definitely now, strength in numbers. I have had both knees replaced and wear trifocals and my hair, as you can see, is very gray. But I don't see myself as a joke, feeble, elderly or in any way "over the hill" mentally or emotionally. <BR/><BR/>And, as I said before, I'd rather look my age than have people looking at me lying in a casket. The alternative to aging is not living and we live!Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-23895981820420171072008-08-31T14:27:00.000-02:002008-08-31T14:27:00.000-02:00I don't think that legislators laugh at AARP, and ...I don't think that legislators laugh at AARP, and they didn't think that the Gray Panthers were something to poke fun at either. The walker thing was tongue in cheek, but the Boomers have had hips, knees and and everything else possible replaced. <BR/><BR/>I believe that if some find us somehow humorous, they will quickly be disavowed of that notion. Let them laugh, let them snigger...but then let them try to counter our claims. They can't counter them, because they are the truth. Nothing too funny about the truth. How hilarious did they find Auschwitz? We can use their hilarity to our advantage. I don't think that they will laugh for very long, since exploitation of women and their infants is just not funny. <BR/><BR/>The removal of an entire population is cultural genocide and what was done in the US and other English speaking countries of the world was ignored. We will no longer be ignored. And, we will no longer maintain the fiction they forced on us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17088288948654864117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-2456481187630153532008-08-31T12:05:00.000-02:002008-08-31T12:05:00.000-02:00Besides, I think we all would prefer "Senior" to "...Besides, I think we all would prefer "Senior" to "Older." We can't use BSEMoms for our org. so we go with what is most descriptive and truthful. We were there first and we are no longer kids.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-27938151748951519712008-08-31T11:57:00.000-02:002008-08-31T11:57:00.000-02:00Gale, there is beauty at every age. It is society ...Gale, there is beauty at every age. It is society that has made youth the icon that it is. We have spent years earning self-respect. This is no time to lose our self-esteem over something like age. I take pride in every gray hair on my head and see my life in every line on my face. What a story it has to tell. It is an exciting time of life if we allow it to be.<BR/><BR/>I, too, wish that other mothers from our era would peek out of their secret rooms and see the courage of their sisters and want to join us. There is NO MORE SHAME!Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-24303687954911050822008-08-31T11:49:00.000-02:002008-08-31T11:49:00.000-02:00Hi Robin,This is Gale just wanted to check in here...Hi Robin,<BR/><BR/>This is Gale just wanted to check in here I am a member of SMACC and very proud. Not sure I like being a senior though, I am getting USED to the idea as there is no going "back" as far as aging goes for any of us!<BR/><BR/>I want other mother's who are still hiding, or in the closet or so traumatized by the loss of their baby to come out and join us.<BR/><BR/>Gale <BR/>1966 mother of loss to EMSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-26019533295165376532008-08-30T17:36:00.000-02:002008-08-30T17:36:00.000-02:00And that should read "social STRUCTURE" *blush.And that should read "social STRUCTURE" *blush.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-31368488032077394842008-08-30T17:33:00.000-02:002008-08-30T17:33:00.000-02:00Gail, I think you underestimate the power of the f...Gail, I think you underestimate the power of the fact that we are the majority in the present population and that we were there first. We are the ones on whom the adoption machine grew fat and powerful. We were subjected to a social structer that has not existed for a while and that makes us, whether we like it or not, Seniors. I think the previous poster was just exercising her sense of humor. I also think being preoccupied with maintaining our long lost youth to the point that we cannot respect our own gray hair is what might do us in from within. Look what the AARP has grown into since Sen. Pepper started talking with other seniors. We have numbers, experience, wisdom and truth. I don't think the word "Senior" is going to destroy us. Vanity will.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-62451909816557377092008-08-30T16:59:00.000-02:002008-08-30T16:59:00.000-02:00Hi Robin: Having lost a child to adoption in the 1...Hi Robin: Having lost a child to adoption in the 1960's, I am very impressed with what you are doing with SMAAC, and I'm very much in agreement with your views. I am concerned, however, that accomplishment of your goals could be compromised by the emphasis on the "senior-ness" of the mothers of the Baby Scoop Era. My own experience, gained particularly in dealing with the needs of older parents, is that, in our culture, "senior" is equated with weakness. When you think about our particular youth-oriented society's general lack of respect for seniors (and I could give dozens of examples), you have to question whether concentrating on being senior is much of an advantage. The last poster's description of a march of gray-haired mothers with walkers may sound inspiring but, in reality, and sadly, might generate more laughter and snickering than respect. <BR/>Again, Robin, I greatly admire your work on behalf of all of us, and just wanted to put forward my thoughts on this particular aspect.<BR/>Regards<BR/>GailAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-64407917029985989662008-08-30T15:36:00.000-02:002008-08-30T15:36:00.000-02:00I want to add that I don't think adoption can be "...I want to add that I don't think adoption can be "reformed." It needs to be done away with, entirely and something more child-centered put in its place such as kinship and legal guardianships.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-76964057068864842852008-08-30T15:35:00.000-02:002008-08-30T15:35:00.000-02:00You made two good points, Anon. One is that womb-f...You made two good points, Anon. One is that womb-fresh infants are where the money is and that adopter are the ones who are willing to pay for it (the "as if born to" fantasy). The other thing is giving back autonomy to the mother. She is not a birth-thing until she is snared by an agency and surrenders her child. If or until that happens, she is a child's only true mother and should have a chance to raise her child and receive the support she needs.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-59763790390726658272008-08-30T14:42:00.000-02:002008-08-30T14:42:00.000-02:00I just discovered your blog and read it with a hea...I just discovered your blog and read it with a heavy heart. Your story is one that is comming full circle domestically and internationally. Countless of adoption agencies are closing down : Commonwealth, Adoption House, Waiting Angels, etc., because brave people like you dared to step forward and question the ethics of these people.<BR/>Countries are closing down their adoptions to America or imposing much more difficult laws: Guatemala, China and more.<BR/>Unfortunately, there will always be someone there who will accept $$ money for a child, and some of the adoptive parents fuel this behavior with their money paying upwards of $40,000 for a baby (most want babies, they ignore the older children that so need homes)<BR/>Internationally Adoptions were a $6.5 billion industry in the USA is is $2.3 billion with lobbyists, etc. These agencies claim to be "non-profit" which is a laugh. Many of these agencies rake in over $1.5 million a year. There is a website that is FREE where you can check their IRS 990 forms, www.guidestar.com it will astound you how much salary some of the Exectuive Directors make and what little is given to humanitarian aid (with no proof)<BR/>There is a group formed by parents called PEAR (Parents for Ethical Adoption Reform) www.pear-now.org<BR/>www.pear-now.com<BR/>Lets give the rights back to the child and birth mother.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-87038193603990207732008-08-29T19:35:00.000-02:002008-08-29T19:35:00.000-02:00Good one, Robin. You say it all, and then some. ...Good one, Robin. You say it all, and then some. Can't you just picture the Senior Mom's March on DC? I wouold love to see us all with our grey hair and walkers and replaced hips and knees marching on Washington demanding to have OUR records unsealed to US. The mind boggles at the image that conjures. <BR/><BR/>Rock on, my sister.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17088288948654864117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-37898707347780339452008-08-29T14:29:00.000-02:002008-08-29T14:29:00.000-02:00Sorry, maybe, but I don't want to elaborate on it....Sorry, maybe, but I don't want to elaborate on it. It has caused many a hard feeling and I just want us to concentrate on what we have to do for the injustices of the EMS.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-22197564484356145332008-08-29T13:46:00.000-02:002008-08-29T13:46:00.000-02:00"We've already been told, maybe, by the younger mo..."We've already been told, maybe, by the younger mothers that this fight is ours, alone."<BR/><BR/>Can you elaborate on that? What has been done to women in the past is the model for future abuse (even if modified methods are used). Why would younger women not be supportive of your fight? Seems odd to me...maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067284504038707207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-72261081450177868912008-08-29T13:24:00.000-02:002008-08-29T13:24:00.000-02:00We've already been told, maybe, by the younger mot...We've already been told, maybe, by the younger mothers that this fight is ours, alone. What happens now is up to them to counter.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580241881953821182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33752164.post-69449249978044571332008-08-29T13:18:00.000-02:002008-08-29T13:18:00.000-02:00Hmmmm, this will be interesting. I see how being ...Hmmmm, this will be interesting. I see how being focused on your particular era will be key to your success. <BR/><BR/>I just hope the pro-adoption folks don't use this to say, "but it's different now!" Wait a minute, they already say that. Cedar's blog has a great post about the unethical development of methods to increase the supply of infants.<BR/><BR/>Can't wait to see what the response will be once specific agenices, hospitals, SWs, Drs., etc., are announced. Will they feign ignorance? God's will? <BR/><BR/>It will be entertaining to see them scurry to offer whatever pathetic excuses they will surely come up with.maybehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067284504038707207noreply@blogger.com